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	<title>Comments on: CenPhoCamp was great, but we gotta keep going</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew Petro</title>
		<link>http://matthewpetro.name/2010/01/24/cenphocamp-was-great-but-we-gotta-keep-going/comment-page-1/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Petro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I forgot that the current Gangplank is actually straight north of the new location.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve hoped for the West Valley to get some momentum behind attracting more tech companies and people, but that doesn&#039;t seem to be happening. For better or for worse, the East Valley is the tech side of the area.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Social media helps take away a lot of the geographic barriers that Phoenix has been faced with, but it can&#039;t take away all of them. There&#039;s still a lot to be said for being close to where most of the people and resources in your field are located.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I forgot that the current Gangplank is actually straight north of the new location.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve hoped for the West Valley to get some momentum behind attracting more tech companies and people, but that doesn&#39;t seem to be happening. For better or for worse, the East Valley is the tech side of the area.</p>
<p>Social media helps take away a lot of the geographic barriers that Phoenix has been faced with, but it can&#39;t take away all of them. There&#39;s still a lot to be said for being close to where most of the people and resources in your field are located.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Petro</title>
		<link>http://matthewpetro.name/2010/01/24/cenphocamp-was-great-but-we-gotta-keep-going/comment-page-1/#comment-378</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Petro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I forgot that the current Gangplank is actually straight north of the new location.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve hoped for the West Valley to get some momentum behind attracting more tech companies and people, but that doesn&#039;t seem to be happening. For better or for worse, the East Valley is the tech side of the area.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Social media helps take away a lot of the geographic barriers that Phoenix has been faced with, but it can&#039;t take away all of them. There&#039;s still a lot to be said for being close to where most of the people and resources in your field are located.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I forgot that the current Gangplank is actually straight north of the new location.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve hoped for the West Valley to get some momentum behind attracting more tech companies and people, but that doesn&#39;t seem to be happening. For better or for worse, the East Valley is the tech side of the area.</p>
<p>Social media helps take away a lot of the geographic barriers that Phoenix has been faced with, but it can&#39;t take away all of them. There&#39;s still a lot to be said for being close to where most of the people and resources in your field are located.</p>
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		<title>By: tdhurst</title>
		<link>http://matthewpetro.name/2010/01/24/cenphocamp-was-great-but-we-gotta-keep-going/comment-page-1/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>tdhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t cater to everyone. There are plenty of things people give up to live when they choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#39;t cater to everyone. There are plenty of things people give up to live when they choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Neighbors</title>
		<link>http://matthewpetro.name/2010/01/24/cenphocamp-was-great-but-we-gotta-keep-going/comment-page-1/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Neighbors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently location is technically on the BRT route.  We walked to the ground breaking.  Metro Phoenix spans over 144sq miles.  There is no such thing as &quot;central&quot; or &quot;close&quot;.  It&#039;s about making hard decisions to get the things you want.  We chose to put Gangplank where the most people who would use it are located.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently location is technically on the BRT route.  We walked to the ground breaking.  Metro Phoenix spans over 144sq miles.  There is no such thing as &#8220;central&#8221; or &#8220;close&#8221;.  It&#39;s about making hard decisions to get the things you want.  We chose to put Gangplank where the most people who would use it are located.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Neighbors</title>
		<link>http://matthewpetro.name/2010/01/24/cenphocamp-was-great-but-we-gotta-keep-going/comment-page-1/#comment-373</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Neighbors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People will make excuses.  That is one of the lamest ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People will make excuses.  That is one of the lamest ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Petro</title>
		<link>http://matthewpetro.name/2010/01/24/cenphocamp-was-great-but-we-gotta-keep-going/comment-page-1/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Petro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gangplank is a good place, but for some it is too far. It&#039;s 42 miles from my house, nor is it easily accessible by public transit. So for me, it is too far.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, moving Gangplank to a location directly on the new BRT route which connects with light rail will help with the transit accessibility, but it&#039;s still out of the way for anyone who doesn&#039;t live in the east valley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gangplank is a good place, but for some it is too far. It&#39;s 42 miles from my house, nor is it easily accessible by public transit. So for me, it is too far.</p>
<p>Yes, moving Gangplank to a location directly on the new BRT route which connects with light rail will help with the transit accessibility, but it&#39;s still out of the way for anyone who doesn&#39;t live in the east valley.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Petro</title>
		<link>http://matthewpetro.name/2010/01/24/cenphocamp-was-great-but-we-gotta-keep-going/comment-page-1/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Petro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not really sure how, or even if, we can quantitatively measure outcomes from an event like CenPhoCamp. Maybe we don&#039;t. Maybe the real measurement is the public consensus as to what CenPho is. If a lot of work happens but many residents of the valley still view downtown as a wasteland that&#039;s deserted after dark, then the number of lots filled in, the number of businesses opened and the number of events held doesn&#039;t matter. But if we do manage to really change the public view of CenPho, then the amount of work, large or small, is worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not really sure how, or even if, we can quantitatively measure outcomes from an event like CenPhoCamp. Maybe we don&#39;t. Maybe the real measurement is the public consensus as to what CenPho is. If a lot of work happens but many residents of the valley still view downtown as a wasteland that&#39;s deserted after dark, then the number of lots filled in, the number of businesses opened and the number of events held doesn&#39;t matter. But if we do manage to really change the public view of CenPho, then the amount of work, large or small, is worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: tdhurst</title>
		<link>http://matthewpetro.name/2010/01/24/cenphocamp-was-great-but-we-gotta-keep-going/comment-page-1/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator>tdhurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gangplank is still intimidating to a lot of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gangplank is still intimidating to a lot of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Neighbors</title>
		<link>http://matthewpetro.name/2010/01/24/cenphocamp-was-great-but-we-gotta-keep-going/comment-page-1/#comment-368</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Neighbors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have our cheers.. It&#039;s called Gangplank.  Of course, you probably think it&#039;s too far.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Ng</title>
		<link>http://matthewpetro.name/2010/01/24/cenphocamp-was-great-but-we-gotta-keep-going/comment-page-1/#comment-367</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;m already doing tonight.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How do we begin to measure whether things actually get done from these conferences ?  If it&#039;s measurable, we can tell what works and what doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#39;s worth, I&#39;m already doing tonight.</p>
<p>How do we begin to measure whether things actually get done from these conferences ?  If it&#39;s measurable, we can tell what works and what doesn&#39;t.</p>
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